Thank you Libby. More conversations are needed on this subject. I have been a group facilitator for anger management groups, both men and women, for court ordered domestic violence offenders and facilitating many group groups for those struggling with substance abuse. I see it through their eyes. It all boils down to the emotional pain. I have seen the self-awareness within these people and the emotional intelligence they already have but they can't see it through the fear of the pain. They are completely stuck in the fear.